Posts by Vernon Williams

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Christmas Card exchange?

by bem in

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friends

has someone started a christmas card exchange list yet for this year?

we did this in the past and it was such fun to get all the great cards.. .

Vernon Williams

To All

My address:

Vernon Williams

423 W. Nellie

Monett, MO 65708

This is a cool idea....

V

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Shower or bath?

by Quentin in

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friends

.

would you rather take a shower, or a bath?

i prefere showers with water hot as i can stand and i don't mean in scrub up, rinse, out....linger uneder the water is so relaxing...what about you..?.

Vernon Williams

There are two kinds of people:

Those that hand you the pack of gum or cigs and those that hand you only one cig or stick.

In the kitchen: sponge or rag people. I will eat out of a rag kitchen over a sponge kitchen, anytime.

And,

Bath or shower.

I am a bath person with a rinse of clean water from a pitcher. Baths soak off the muck-muck and are a lot more relaxing. Soak, scrub, rinse...aaagghhhh....

For what it is worth,

V

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i have been away from the board for about a week: my mom went in the hospital for chest pains, had a "stint" put in one of the blood vessels in her heart, almost died, recovered to the point she could be sent home, and is home now.

my mom is 80, a bit "alternative" as far as medicine goes, stubborn as a mule, and one of the most caring people you would ever want to meet.

so, caring for her is a bit of a challange at times.

Vernon Williams

To All,

I have been away from the board for about a week: my mom went in the hospital for chest pains, had a "stint" put in one of the blood vessels in her heart, almost died, recovered to the point she could be sent home, and is home now. My mom is 80, a bit "alternative" as far as medicine goes, stubborn as a mule, and one of the most caring people you would ever want to meet. So, caring for her is a bit of a challange at times. My brothers and their families have been just great in caring for our mom. I have Friday's duty: eight am to eight pm. Mrs Williams has Sunday.

There have been several good threads: "CoCo"s post on the blood situation was good (caps drove me nuts) and Oompa's posts just crack me up....

Wanted you all to know I think about everyone on the board a great deal and wish you all peace and patience...

Take care,

V

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Will this Christmas be your first one?

by lfcviking in

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friends

ok so its only october so maybe this is a bit early.

but for me this is my 2nd year out of the org and i am looking forward to celebrating it again this year just like last year.. isn't it geat that we can join in with this celebration with the rest of the participating world!.

and no guilt feelings of being involved in a pagan celebration, over-indulging a bit, getting drunk a bit and enjoying yourself.. will this year's christmas be a first one for some people here since they have left the org?.

Vernon Williams

Our family's fourth: it is wonderful.

Merry Christmas!!

V

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Why I am going to HELL....and what did YOU do?!?!

by oompa in

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friends

anonymity is a good thing.

i have never told anyone this and it bothered me really bad for a long time.

leading a double life at an early age as a jw probably is an indication that you are really not going to buy into the program.

Vernon Williams

O,

In your first post you said we "know the rest of the stroy..."

NO, we do not....

So, what happened to/with "Karen?"

V

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Our debt to BRCI

by Vernon Williams in

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i have a buddy, tom cabeen, and i was talking ot him about the formation of brci.

tom was there at the beginning...... they started back in the early eighties.

today, the internet is our mode of connecting, however, it was letter, phone, and personal visits back then.

Vernon Williams

Guys, here is the deal.

The "generation" that really broke ground, the BRCI folks and others, are getting old. Tom is pushing 60, Ron Frye...old man (he is the coolest dude...) and everyone, me, too, are "getting along." We have to remember 1980 was 27 years ago and the clock is ticking.

The next group, the younger crowd, here....say forty and younger, really need to know what happened...how this progressed to the point where those opposing the WT are not some back room, underground group of hoodlams (SP?) but an out in the open, well aware, educated, and non-embarrest membership of really fine folks.

I just wish there was a way of putting together a "history" of this whole affair...the stories and such...an archive that stored THIS story. It is a great story....

V

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STOP THE MADNESS....where is this board going?

by SnakesInTheTower in

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i've only posted since feb 07..but i have lurked for several years prior and there was usually something interesting on the board.

as i was reading the active topics list this morning, only a couple things jumped out at me as interesting...its been this way since the dgate and tgate incidents.... i was discussing this with a long time poster via im yesterday....does it seem to anyone else that so many of the topics are ...i dont know....odd...or different than they used to be...and i dont mean that in a good way.. i miss the newbies coming on and telling us their stories.... i miss the long time posters updating us on their lives post-borg... i guess with the recent uproar, the lurkers are hesitant to become newbies (cant say as i blame them now...we probably scared them off , and maybe the vets are just as hesitant...after all, someone went 2 years with their fraud/hoax...who will believe anyone else now?

i hope this is just a temporary cycle on this board..i have read many many posts from the archives...i hope one day soon we can get back to a happy medium here.. by the way, i like the fluff threads, but these seem to be more and more sex related (maybe that word will wake someone)... yet they get all the attention....and then someone goes too far and it gets locked down by a mod and the poster restricted......(i am not a prude...just sometimes enough is enough).

Vernon Williams

Good points, Jeff....

I think Snakes is in a growth dynamic at this time....we have a hard time keeping up with ourselves with things "gel-ing" so quickly.

With the steep learning curve it can get a little dizzy--eee---ing.....

Good night,

V

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Christians - Convert me! I'm Pagan!

by Sirona in

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friends

following on from terry's thread about mind filters and being open minded....... i'm neo-pagan.

for a loose definition of my beliefs see here http://www.religioustolerance.org/neopaga1.htm.

but i'm willing to consider christian belief systems.. just recently i've been studying the jewish kabballah (qabalah).

Vernon Williams

I am a Christian.

I believe you are content where you are. You are in Journey.

When your Journey begins to weary you look around. If you find the drink I offer refreshing, ask the source and we can talk......

My take is this:

Better a loving pagan in the Judgement than a hypacrital Christian...we will see, won't we....

V

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To Summer and Freedomfrog

by Vernon Williams in

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hey guys,.

there are "cliques" that start...folks will kinda line up and the "fests" bring them even closer..... somehow, there are a few on the board that attrack me: ak jeff, jk666, eclispe, "coco," mr and mrs flipper, and several more (i gotto go to work, this is rushed),.

you guys are valuable.

Vernon Williams

Hey guys,

There are "cliques" that start...folks will kinda line up and the "fests" bring them even closer....

Somehow, there are a few on the board that attrack me: AK Jeff, JK666, Eclispe, "CoCo," Mr and Mrs Flipper, and several more (I gotto go to work, this is rushed),

HOWEVER,

You guys are valuable. That little post you make...that small comment that never gets a response THAT may be the "straw" that breaks the back of resistance in a "lurker" and he accepts the fact the WT is, indeed, whacked.

So, keep posting and stay around...it is a corporate effort....

Gotta run....

V

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STOP THE MADNESS....where is this board going?

by SnakesInTheTower in

jw
friends

i've only posted since feb 07..but i have lurked for several years prior and there was usually something interesting on the board.

as i was reading the active topics list this morning, only a couple things jumped out at me as interesting...its been this way since the dgate and tgate incidents.... i was discussing this with a long time poster via im yesterday....does it seem to anyone else that so many of the topics are ...i dont know....odd...or different than they used to be...and i dont mean that in a good way.. i miss the newbies coming on and telling us their stories.... i miss the long time posters updating us on their lives post-borg... i guess with the recent uproar, the lurkers are hesitant to become newbies (cant say as i blame them now...we probably scared them off , and maybe the vets are just as hesitant...after all, someone went 2 years with their fraud/hoax...who will believe anyone else now?

i hope this is just a temporary cycle on this board..i have read many many posts from the archives...i hope one day soon we can get back to a happy medium here.. by the way, i like the fluff threads, but these seem to be more and more sex related (maybe that word will wake someone)... yet they get all the attention....and then someone goes too far and it gets locked down by a mod and the poster restricted......(i am not a prude...just sometimes enough is enough).

Vernon Williams

Snakes,

I think it is ebb an flo....and, maybe, where YOU are in Journey. Your perspective and attitudes...at least as they come through in your writing show a shift in perspective since I started reading your posts. That "fest" up North must have helped, also.....

I agree on the "ribald" threads...yet, it shows the variety of opinion and openess of the board. If you are like me, I skip over a lot of this stuff. People are expermenting and expressing.....

It all has to do with "Journey," bro, and where we and others are in this trek. I have learned a bit, and, it grows daily, to allow the other person a lot of room. You need space, too, and you are doing great.

Yes, I agree with a lot of what you say. The pluses outweigh the minus-es, the good over the bad and ugly.

With you in this Journey,

V PS: the invite to call on the phone is still there!